Permalink As I understand Shah (it’s some several years given that I read the e-book) TRB OUD R became “trobador” in Spanish also indicating “finder” and distribute to Provencal, the place the verbal connection into the lute was missing and the finder use was transliterated straight from Langue d’Oc https://danielv244eyt8.theobloggers.com/36913505/the-ultimate-guide-to-soundtrack-oud